Louis Cypher - Lou Cyfer - Lucfer hmmm?

GO HUNTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What exactly do you mean by "grim"? If it means having actual repercussions for Masquerade breaches(PC, NPC, or otherwise), that'd work. If it means having the Werewolves harassed for no apparent(within the last month or 2) reason, then I'd have to wonder... Having a world with vampires and werewolves is dark enough without any additional influences.

This is exactly the kind of feedback I was looking for - thanks. Just a reminder to all those vamps out there: in this game Path = average of con and self-control/instinct and will = av. of courage and self/instinct. As for adam's point - I want it grim, this game isn't quite to the grimness level that I'm shooting for...yet. As for the arguements against removing courage - (just my take on it - am flexable on this point) as the beast takes hold, the urge for self-preservation becomes stronger (rotschrek anyone?) and the urge to avoid those things that can destroy you becomes stronger as a result. hence the possible courage loss. Maybe it just might work better with it being the ST's call at the situation as to what you would loose. (grin)

narf..

Actually, willpower is related to courage, i.e. willpower equals courage rating before freebie point spending.

I forgot how it works in LARP, but in table top Courage is related to your willpower not you path rating. I think Consience/conviction, self control/instict should drop if people dont play humanity. I saw a vamp with humanity 4 off a couple cops and think nothin of it. If it is those kind of situations that John wants to Wupp, then count me as all for it!

I can't say one way or the other as I don't play a vampire too much but with the way I have seen others play their characters the mere idea sounds like a step in the right direction. I would be curious as to how much people have invested in disciplines and weather or not they could honestly say, even to themselves, that they play anything more than super humans with a few flaws. I don't feel that any game should be about what powers you can get that no normal man can use. If you want a game like that there are plenty of superhero table tops you could play. Sometimes I feel that alot of people get so caught up in the glamor of the mystical and supernatural that they overlook the simple "mundane" solutions that will work just as well if not better considering we are to disillusion the masses into thinking that there are no supernaturals.

I agree with Adam on this one. If your courage rating is your highest rating, I don't think that your humanity/path rating should really affect that at all. Consience/conviction, self control/instict - yes, it SHOULD affect those. Just because you don't have alot of connection to humanity, doesn't mean that you can't be a brave little sh*t. :)

I don't see that as making much sense. If I had a Courage rating of 5, I don't think I should lose a point of Courage because I lost some Humanity. I could see it affecting Self-Control or Conscience, but I still don't think losing 4+ XP worth of Path related "stuff" is a good idea.

I'm thinking of adding another JW custom rule to the game. This involves paths (of morality). In the table top game the degredation of the soul is a major dramtic element that I find lacking in the LARP permutation. So what I'm thinking is that when you lose a path rating you lose a point from your highest virtue. This is a permenant loss in that you must role-play and spend xp to regain this virtue point. Reactions?

Well, Your welcome Welcomb. Anyway, I call a meeting of Primidgen, Meet at The elysium at 7:30pm. We will talk about what needs to be done as well as the Lupine situation and the other independants in our city.

Apparently, White Wolf is smoking a lot of Ganja. Eventhough they've got Laws of the Wild up for pre-sale, it won't ship till April. Bah... Also, what's the level of interest in the Elder game? Is there any? Is it too far away schedule wise that people just don't have any interest yet?

Apparently being an old corpse makes it hard to spell and use proper grammer.

I just thought to remind you, I do read these things too. There are other groups in the city to work with, if I feel the need. At this point I'd rather be entertained by your political troubles than watching the necromancers raise zombies. However, if my presence is found to be so very distateful...

and if I spelled anything wrong - screw off

Wixx, your letters are a pattina of excrement and pearls. I can't even begin to understand how you live with it. Not a matter though, I have other business here. I CALL ALL THE SONS OF TROIL FOR A GATHERING!!! it is time to talk, fest and RANT! There we express our goals for the city, with passion. Meet at 9:00, in the experimental fields south of cmmpus (gives actual directions) Anyone intruding will be greeted in traditional brujha style.

If anyone could inform me about what happend in the Art Gallery last night I would be thankful.

This is outragious....

I would like to take this time to thank the Seneschal for considering me for and granting me status in this fair city. It is rare that a Caitiff, such as myself, is looked upon at all, much less looked upon with any degree of favor.I hope that I will continue to prove myself worthy of this great honor. Again, Thank you *Deep Bow*

I regret to inform you my fellow's but something had come up in the Majestic city of New York. I may be needed there so I may not be there this saturday. I am sorry, all meetings will be held off until further notice.
((In other words OOC I can't find a fucking ride. Jackass has a queen alien growing in his chest that the doc has found, but he uses the word "pnuemonia" but we know the truth.))

Unfortunately my work here isn't quite done, so you're all goin' to have ta wait for news for the time bein'. Those who accompanied me to Chicago are well enough so far. My friends and I will explain it all when we return, if there are kindred left to return to.

Hmm, it is true that this city is chaotic. This is an unfortunate and potentially deadly situation. Fortune favors the bold, but not the stupid. Let us see what these next nights have in store for out dear little city. Hopefully the best of us will hold together.

Or so you think Mr.Fuzz.....

Mr. Wixx. You make the common mistake of confusing insanity with stupidity. I feel I have exhibited my intelligence enough to prove its existence. That whole escapade with the fire hydrants and the dog shit kind of put you into question though. Not because you thought of the idea, but because you thought it would work. Also next time you want to defend your intelligence, try to use proper grammar Mr Kettle. And yes, Mordaine, we are damned by god, but I feel your breed are just a bit more damned. Damned to live in a world of Trojan condom stocks and backstabbing. At least I can trust my clanmates.

You're being rather public, Dreamer... maybe you should be more discrete? Any leech seen near that abominable location - McDonalds - will be terminated.

EXCUSE ME? A Massive hunt on the nosferatu? Someone wanna clue me in on this?

I have an offer for the Kindred of Lansing. One I offered originally to Asharax. Since it seems he has fallen out of favor I open the offer to all of you. I know you control the influence of this city. I offer knowledge of the Werewolves in the city in exchange for influence over the fields of Industry and Government. Anyone interested may contact me via the East Lansing Mcdonalds. Ask for the Dreamer. That is all for now.

*looks down at all the chaos she created*...that works better then playing sabbat :)

I noticed how the city is falling apart and all... and how even as the camarilla is supposed to be so obviously strong... it is crumbling before our very eyes. The Sabbat and beasts are infiltrating? What a horrible fate should become of Lansing while it's strongest vampires are off in Chicago... being the calvalry. Did they not see it coming? -I wonder to myself... Did they not smell a set-up? Fools they be, if they did not. How odd could it not seem that a small band of courageous kindred could fight off the lot of Chicago's troubles... leaving the city of Lansing to fend for itself with weaklings... always turning on one another. The Ventrue killing the Sheriff... the Brujah killing the Ventrue... the massive hunt out for the Nosferatu... what a pity... at you all I do shake my head. Shameful lot of you all.

Chatter, bicker, quarrel, strife, static...applause...just blissful applause.

Last time I checked, weren't we all damned by God? That is why we have an extra hot time in the sun.

Yes, it's true, these computers are much more complicated than a type writer, so excuse my spelling.


And as for you Mr.... Fuzz was it? what thell sort of name is "The Fuzz", anyway. Pick and accent and stick with it you twit. You calling my stupid is like the pot calling the kettle black.

Asserax is gone? Hmm... This could mean interesting times are upon us. Personally, I rather like it. For once I'm going to have to agree with the Goddamned Ventrue. If you don't have anything intelligent to say, Say nothing *pointed look at Jimmy Wixx*

You spelled Caesar wrong Mr. Wixx.

Well this is my entire deal here: yes, clever and humane is good, to an extent. But force is almost always neccisary. Augustus Ceasar was the most clever emperor there ever was, yet he needed force to guide his will. Such things are not seen in anything Asserax has done.

So, Mr. Cochrane, what news do you bring from Chicago? I am glad to see you are back safely. Are things getting better there? My information is somewhat limited when it comes to reports from that city. The populus at large is griping heavily about Prince Asserax, and they seem to only notice the bad things. We have a basically Sabat free city, the werewolves are not ripping us from our cars and havens, and as far as the Setites are concerned. Would you rather them an direct enemy? Dealing with them is tricky yes, but it's the lesser of two evils. If someone has a better idea, i and i'm sure everyone else would like to hear it. And unless you are going to say something intelligent with support of your statements, please shut up. Thank you.

Well well, greetings from the windy city. An interestin' discussion goin' on here I must say. Let me explain something my esteemed kindred: Asserax is in the position he is in because he is effective and humane. Effective due in part to his particular talents with mortals but more so because of the resources he so generously spends keeping your foolish faces off the Nightly News and the 10 most wanted list. I mention humanity because it is something to which we should all aspire. It is what separates us from our enemies and it makes us clever, clever enough to see that brute force as a solution to everything has consequences. Why not cooperate with your noble and humane Prince.

The strong tyrant you desire would not have even stood up for this discussion. I'd rather have a wise and clever Prince than a strong and stupid one anyday. Asserax balances many stones. I wonder whether another would have his same grace.

Assarax, not to demean your judgement but, what the hell are you doing letting those snakes in! they already turned down the opportunity once why give them a second chance? We will talk later when you return if i havent been stabbed in the back by those snakes.

I'm sorry but I cannot follow someone who makes deals with the Sabbat. Allows the Snakes into our garden "In name only". He allows the lupines and allows them to kill our own without retaliation. I am sorry frank but you and I must agree to disagree.

Young Jimmy,

I must respectfully, disagree. Our beliefs are what makes us. You judge Asserax on what you believe...saying that his beliefs are wrong. I must say, no one in this city is of position to tell him as such. He runs this city how he believes it should be run, and that is what makes him a strong leader. If a leader simply bows to those under them, they are no more than a figurehead...which he is far from. I may not agree with every choice that he has made as to how the city has been run, however, he is Prince, and as such, affords the luxury of holding his beliefs above all others.

I will say no more on the issue...good evening...

Frank Frank Frank, I'm not a young, or as stupid as you'd think. This city is a cesspool because of pore leadership. We need someone stronger than past princes, stronger than I. I have a canidate in mind but I will not speak his name until I speak with him myself. I appreciate your not-helping as much as I resent it. But it is your decision and I and the rest of the clan will respect it. As for Asserax,he had a good idea. But it soon turned into a belief and beliefs are unchangeable. and that is not what makes a good prince.

Young Jimmy...

Do you always speak so to your elders? Mr. Assarax is prince for a reason, and regardless of if you agree with how he is running this cesspool of a city...no offense meant to you Asserax...he still deserves the respect of an elder. Fight with him if you will. Try and force him out of leadership if you will. However, do not be so foolish as to force him down without having a replacement that is suitable to run this city. If you yourself are thinking of taking that position, do not forget that the Prince, more that anyone, wears a target on their back..simply waiting for someone to put a sharp piece of wood through. Also...remember that us, more than any of the others...are the first to be extinguished in any Jyhad...

I am not going to tell you what to do. I am not going to say anymore as far as this is concerned. I am not going to assist you in this...rash...maneuver. I am also not going to work against you in the manner...

I was once young and irrational such as you...perhaps in time, you too will learn, and be tempered by time to not act so hastily on such things without thought....

Be safe, young one....

Dear One without a Face,

I agree, we are not ones to fight amongst ourselves. If we do, we are no better than the others. I do not believe that some of our brothers in the city realize the bond that we share..even when we do not see eye to eye....

I have been busy this week, and still have many things to do, however, please contact me via phone....perhaps we can talk...

Be safe, brother...

And now you leave? Jesus asserax! Stand up for yourself like a man, oh wait, thats right, you can't stand up.

I could say many things here about my beliefs and goals for myself and the city; however, such would amount to little more than pointless bickering and the meaning of such words would be lost. Therefore, I shall be leaving the city for a few days, to let my actions and policies speak for themselves. I need some time to regain my mental and emotional strength, and the city needs the time to discuss the matter of my Princehood. If the Primogen and my officers can agree that my services as Prince are no longer required, then I shall gladly step down. Anybody else with views on the current situation should discuss such with their Primogen. While I am away, the city shall be in the capable hands of the Seneschal.

It's obviously a Nosferatu, you ignorant whelp. I now truly understand why someone such as Asserax rules this city.

Rusty Pipes? Hey if your not going to leave who you are don't bother postr okay? As far as I'm concerned you can take those pipes and.... nevermind I'd better not say it.

Tsk, tsk, my brethren. The word has come to me through my whispers, my pretty little helpers, and through the rusty pipes that my brothers are fighting in this city. Tsk, tsk. Who are we when we bicker as fiercely as the bull-fighters?

Shhh, you! If you interrupt, they might stop! Hehehe... hey, does the ST stand for StoryTeller or SainT? :) Saint Skippy. Scaaaaaary.

Ahh, actual in caracter debates. Meaningfull at that.

Ahh well here's the deal, just to let you guys know, there or only a few sabbat members within the city, and they just want to stay here and , well they've been taken care of now. So If the prince would kindly stop throwing our worries away with the same line he uses "It's for the good of the city, you wouldn't like the sabbat coming in would you?" It may scare little no noting neonates but Not I, and surely not the rest of my clan. Maybe he even believes what he says and that in my opinion is dangerous.

The seeds of rebellion have been sown, a time of change is upon us. Who will be the victors? The ones who do the fighting, or the ones who let others kill each other.

Just another note... all experience expenditure will either have to be through downtime recieved through e-mail or through the bullshit sheets... I mean downtime sheets... that I'll be handing out at the beginning of next game. For this week, please try to submit your downtime via email, as I didn't have the downtime sheets last game. If anyone has ANY questions about how to put in a downtime, PLEASE email me, and I'll let you know. :)

I do not agree with the punishment the Prince Asserax set forth for Ms. Nightstar. But as he is Prince, I am forced to go along with it. Had it been myself giving the punishment, I would have been very much more harsh. We cannot have the killing of our own kind in our city. I do not particularly hold a grudge with the Brujah, I would have wanted vengeance for the death of my childer as well. It is unfortunate that Lord Welcomb and Joshua have become enemies of the Camirila. I am not exactly sure who to blame for this. Perhaps there should be no blame, for blame is for people who need an excuse to be pissed off. I do not need an excuse, and will take care of those who have earned their destruction, with a smile. And as it is my belief, and I would wish others to embrace the idea, to not bring fire on a whole clan for the mistakes of one of it's members. If we did this, then there would eventually be no one around.

Prince Asserax, I will be the one to inform you that this is enough, Prince or no prince, your desicions aren't and have not been the best for the city. The desicions of asserax? Thats bullshit and you know it, your not to be makeing desicions for yourself when it comes to the possible destruction of another it is for the good of the city. You should know, if your sire taught you anything besides how to play the stock market, that when you become leader of the city you put personal beliefs aside. I am taking a stance of everyone and comeing out and saying what everyone is afraid to say, it would be in your best intrest to step down as prince. I will ask for your desicion at 8:30pm on saturday night.

I Am also asking a meeting between the entire clans of Nosferatu and Brujah.

I do not mind being called a fool; the statement is quite likely accurate. I do, however, take offense at being referred to as spineless. I realize that my decisions last Saturday were questionable, against the will of most members of the city, and not conforming to standard Camarilla practice: a cowardly man would have simply had the offender executed by some means of clan Brujah's liking and avoided any political and personal conflict; I am not that man. If a Kindred is acknowledged in this city, I will listen to whatever he has to say, and will do whatever I can to assist him; I refuse, however, to overlook my beliefs and bow to the whims of the city. I understand completely if some members of the Camarilla are opposed to the way that this city is run; there are plenty of "standard" Camarilla cities that they may move to, comlpete with brutish policy and lightly called blood-hunts. In fact, I shall be happy to provide arrangements for anybody who wishes to leave. Furthermore, I shall state that the decisions I have made are not the decisions of clan Ventrue, they are the decisions of Asserax. I have tried to avoid any bias due to clan loyalty to the best of my ability, and strongly believe that I would have passed the same judgement on a member of any clan had they committed the same atrocity. We have outlasted the Sabbat: Let us not fall to ourselves.

Just to clarify a few things regarding downtimes: Send them to both me and skippy. If they also include XP stuff - send them to jason as well. Thanks PS - becky, whoever you are, you are more then welcome to attend - If we need to find someone then we can look at the game as well.

I am considering joining the LARP possibly as someone childe... If anyone is interested email me ASAP... Thanks...

oops, poor spelling.

I'd like to clarify my position as to my loyalties. I will not allow that spineless fool Asserax any soverenty over me. When none of that murderous hord known as the ventrue hold the prince's throne. Only then will I come back to the cammarilla. Untill then me and my son are your enemies, united in purpose for the first time in his existance - for that I thank the ventrue.

Okie, here's the setting for the Elder game. The year is 2003. Gehenna(if you beleive in whatever that is) has not occurred, but the Jyhad has been at an all time high. Fighting was particular vicious near Mexico City and DC. Somehow, the Camarilla managed to retake DC, and has Mexico City completely under siege. Realizing they've been beaten, the Sabbat have offered their surrender rather than be utterly destroyed. This is where the game takes over. Prince Francois Villon of Paris is holding the "peace" negotiations in a small French town, just outside of Paris. The PC's will take the role of either a Cardinal of the Sabbat or an emissary for the Inner Circle of the Camarilla. Each clan of the Camarilla will have a set agenda to accomplish during the event, while the Sabbat's main goal(at least the obvious one) will be to strike a deal so as to not get totally screwed. Both sects will have one member whose sole purpose will be to maintain decorum and ensure that the Traditions are observed. Any clan of either sect is allowed. One member of each independent clan(that still has a 3rd gen. clansman) will be admitted, solely as observers. The game will take place on the first Friday of April. Tell those with no internet access, tell your friends, tell your enemies. See everyone next week.

Just a little reminder... I post news about what parts of the site have been updated on the front page. So, if you're curious or simply bored, look there for updates.

Laws of the Wild Revised Limited(and signed by Cynthia Summers) is available on White Wolf's webpage. Extra art work, some brief fiction, and... uh... oh yeah, revised rules. $33.95, with no shipping or handling charge. $9 for 2 day delivery and $15 for overnight.

Hey, I need everyone's suggestions for captions for the "Round 1" section of the pics page.... send them to crampto3@msu.edu (or click below), and I'll get them up as soon as I can.

Just a reminder, I'll be discussing the setting for the Elder game on Saturday. I'm putting quite a bit of effort into the preparation, so I hope people are interested.

Yes there is a game in East Lansing. I'll be going to the con on friday, and going to lansing directly from there, and going to the con from the game.

So is there confirmed LARP in East Lansing this Saturday?

of course the offer extends to you... and brandon, supposing he needs a ride too (and pat, for that matter). And that alone is a van-full... so I cut off the limit there. let me know where I can pick you up at... and at what time. -Jen

Thenks for the offer, Jen. I will call you if I can remember your number. Or, better yet, you have mine.

AIM is ShmackZ.

Jason,

I have ICQ and Aim. My two Icq accounts are 84371023 (Grimlock) and 37708596 (Pyle). Grimlock is my work ICQ and Pyle is my home account. On AIM I am ShadowsSon. Feel free to get ahold of me as I am usually on line at one of those. Or e-mail my privatepyle@voyager.net account. Catch you later!

ok... do any of you werewolf players have icq or aim? I've got questions about the character sheets, and since i don't have the books, you guys got problems

.....oh, and jen, does that ride extend to me too? cause as of right now, i have my boots as transport. and walking is not acceptable. complete breach of the code.

hey, as long as i can con someone out of a ride, i'll play where ever people decide. i would like to continue playing in e. lansing though. it's easier. and easiness obeys the laziness code.

Game here, yes? Good. I'm sure the Con will still be there Sunday...

I'd have to say that I'm for larp in lansing... and Paul.. if ends up I can go... I'll give you a ride. At school... gotta go now...

Well, this Idea isn't going anywhere fast. I have to talk to the guys who I'm staying with and figure out what's going on.

Its possible that I might swing down to confusion for the night, so I could theoretically play. Its not all that likely though. So in the end, I'm rather indifferent as to where it'd be.

I do not believe I will be going to Confusion. If someone near the Durand area is going and would offer me a ride, I would not object.

ok, as far as confusion goes, I was planning on making a day trip down there... untill I realized that my buddies at tree of shadows are playing during larp hours... *sigh* oh well. and Zach, there are 3-4 conventions a year in michigan, then there's dragon con and gen con... and you know how those go.

No way, Lansing is far enough for half of us to drive theres no way in hell we're spend a full weeks check to goto sterling hieghts and I speak for Justin, John Eichorn, Myself, Henry and probably most the owosso people as well. Thats 4 votes for no and if there's gonna be a con once a month and a fae game once a month so there's only a vamp game twice a month it's nopt worth it for me personally.

Honestly, I'd rather game here in East Lansing this weekend instead of going to ConFusion... and I may end up in Alpena as well, so I don't even know if that's a possibility.

No way, Lansing is far enough for half of us to drive theres no way in hell we're spend a full weeks check to goto sterling hieghts and I speak for Justin, John Eichorn, Myself, Henry and probably most the owosso people as well. Thats 4 votes for no and if there's gonna be a con once a month and a fae game once a month so there's only a vamp game twice a month it's nopt worth it for me personally.

Not really. Ask any werewolf player and he will tell you rank is not that hard to come by in standard Werewolf LARP rules. The only thing holding us down now is a Storyteller dessisson. (Which I Support) At one CON I gained enough reknown to jump to legendary status and not SPEND ANY EXPERIENCE. See the difference? Werewolfs are meant for killin. Vampires are meant for having meetings. End of disscussion. I am not going to Confusion. I may have to go to Alpena this weekend.

Where is Sterling Heights?

Hullo everyone, I hope changeling went well at Dave's on Saturday. I'll love to hear the stories/comments/complaints. I figured out why it was that I wanted to have the skip week on the third week of this month originaly - ConFusion. This is a fen con in Sterling Heights running this coming weekend. As far as I know, I'm not the only one from this game currently planning on going there either. So, I would like to take a poll as to how many are planning on going. If a good number are going/can go, I'm entertaining the idea of holding the LARP there - in a variety of hotel rooms for locations. (as well as the whole hotel) Lemme know people.

anyone with underworld meet with me in the back room after opening announcements this Saturday(20th) this can be benefical to people.

Oy... anyway, the setting for the Elder game has been set(or will be as 2PM today). I'll discuss that after the weekly announcements this upcoming Saturday(the 20th). If you know you can't make the game on Saturday, or if you want to know ahead of time, go ahead and E-mail me about what the setting will be.

Yeah I know that pyle but it's way more harder to get rank 5 than to get puisance and wolf claws.

Zach, you realize Garou get those abilities as well? Rank two is the same as might. Rank three is the bomb. Rank four is an additional health level. Rank five wins all ties. Rank six is additional point of damage. So Garou have potence powers and 23 physical traits.(If your a theurge) However it is a proven fact that Fae can wupp them all. Ask Jack Webb. Anyone else care to play?

yeah. I mean if they were, they'd be conceding that the fae could whoop everyone. Boggans are the grimmest beatasses in the WoD after all.

Whoah skippah, settle down, me and adam are just goofing around, not like we're gonna get serious

Please take "My Genre can beat up your Genre" arguments to private email. They have no place here.

*Invokes Kiss of Helios* Come on punch me, I dare ya. *Punches, takes 2 agg.* Serves ya right. What? Now you're gonna shoot me? *Shoots, bullets melt.* Ha ha

I'll tell ya what, you can have your 23 physical traits and I just want puisance. I win all ties, ontop of that I don't lose physicals because I can bid potence as a trait AND I through the bomb. And if all those fails there's always might.

What I meant by creation balance was that vampires get a lot more points to spend at creation. Garou get up to 12, 14 with a derangement. Vampires can get up to 21.

exactly zachy my boy-boo yaaaah

Balance? I'll give you balance, it's called potence.

I don't know how much faith I'm putting into this, but in the MET forum on White Wolf's webpage, one of the developers mentioned he thinks an April release for Laws of the Wild sounds about right. Creation balance between Lupines and Leeches... about time.

john... how many xp did I get for that nice little intro to the bishop? let me know... ok?

I will be at the Fortress around 6pm Saturday so people can follow me to Dave Beck's. Anyone who need directions please meet at The Fortress between 6pm and 6:30pm. I will leave at 6:30pm. That should eliminate all last minute confusion. Have a good Friday.

It looks like I've go to make a proclomation THE GAME TOMORROW IS FAE AT BECK'S (dave - not the beer)

Cho Cho takes care of the Werewolf players sheets. Thats why they taught him how to read.

so who was supposed to send me the grapevine file for the fuzzy game? I'm kinda gonna need it... I'm also going to need the werewolf menu file for grapevine. Whoever has em, send em over

Given this and wilk's feelings, I'm assuming we're running fae this weekend. Blodgett, are you good to go with that? email or otherwise get in touch with me so we can work some stuff out.

My place is fine though there is still confusion as to what is to be played here. Whatever game is on for the weekend my place is off of Waverly road. 3801 Brighton. From the Fortress take Grand River to 496 through town to the Lansing Road exit Lansing road curves to the left, then merges with the highway until you are at Waverly Road. Take a left, go over the river, past Holmes Road you'll see an Admiral gas station, take the first left just beyond that, take a right on Brighton and find 3801.

See you then and if my directions are too confusing or if you're coming from a different direction (like Ann Arbor) visit MapQuest.com for a better plan.

Adam. In regards to the abomination LARP with avatars. NO NO NO NO NO NO NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! You should be beaten about the head and shoulders with your abominations. In regards to playing this weekend I would love to play either Changeling or Vamp/Garou but worry about the close deadline and no concrete plans suggests a small turn out and confusion. Maybe we should look into alternative spots to hold the LARP as back up in the rare case that something such as this weekend occurs.

Pending acceptance by Dave Beck, I'd like the game this weekend to be fae at the Beck resedence (let us know soon please)

I'm guessing they're sticking to the fae for this weekend... and that's just as well. I have options...

Blarg, I'm doing D&D thing this weekend.

If it's skip week, I vote for Changling. If it's not skip week, I vote for an all abomination(with Avatars) LARP.

i would be willing to play, and pay, but, i would rather play vampire.

The last I heard was that this weekend was going to be the "Skip" weekend. Therefore it would be the Fae LARP. Talks were going on with Dave Beck about having it at his house. I have not heard any formal annoucement as of yet. Since it is Wednesday, we should hear a decission soon, hopefully...

I ain't promisin' nothin'.

That's correct. Closed to us anyway. :) Have any plans been finalized for this Saturday?

Fortress is closed this weekend because of the War Hammer Tornament right?

I'm willing to run fae this weekend, as is Blodgett I believe, but it would of course depend on the players. Beck's is also an option like I said, depending on the size of the game. Dave, if you see this, and are still offering your abode, lemme know. That might be a cheaper alternative, assuming slapnut and cho-cho don't break holes in the walls.

Well I talked to the Apartment complex. They need a check for the $150 to reserve it. They will not cash it untill after the event. The problem is I dont have a checking account. Anybody out there who is willing to sacrifice a check that will never be cashed? Other than that I have tentatively reserved the room for us. Keep in touch.

i'd pay 5 bucks for vampire...

he ,Prince,i need to talkt o you about your lackyes and them invading my home and attacking some close friends of mine.and again this is very important.

Maybe we should think of finding a different place to play alltogether instead of the fortress..it is a bit crowded in there

I get in free? Anyway, yeah same goes for me, 5 for vamp not for changling

I'd pay the 5 bucks for Vampire, but not for Changeling. Just not in a fae type of mood for this weekend, I suppose.

Well, quite the use of fonts there. $150 is the limit I set for the cost of the site so that's acceptable by me. However, I need a comittment from Pirate that this is going to happen. So that we don't break the bank I'd like to charge 5 bucks a head (slapnut gets in free in that case ) Pyle, will you front the cash and get repaid by me the following week? Let me know quick if this won't work. Pirate, please give the door take to Pyle after the game and we'll settle the remainder of the bill (if this goes through) As for the changling players - Is 5 bucks acceptable? It's the most stable offer we've had so far.

That is not my dession to make. I was informed that John Wilk declared this the skip week instead of the 20th like it is supposed to be because of the war hammer tournament. Then I was ask by the Changeling storytellers if I would look into the cost of the lounge at my apartment complex. I have done so. The lounge would work for either genre as it has more available space then the Fortress. Please inform me A.S.A.P as to whether or not you will need me to reserve the lounge. I do not care if it is for Vampire or Changeling as long as we have a game this weekend. Talk to you later,

In all honesty I as well would rather play vampire than changeling right now

Honestly, I'd rather play Vampire this week if we could manage a place to play... any possibility of that?

I contacted my management company in regards to renting the lounge for this Saturday's Changeling Game. Any use of the Lounge requires a $100 downpayment. The cost for Saturday would be $150. At last count the Changeling LARP was at 20 to 25 people. That would put the cost per person at $4/$5. Please let me know A.S.A.P. if this is an option that we want to do. The lounge is available for this Saturday now, but there is not guarentee that it will be if we delay on this dession. I hope I have helped a little.

Lansing Newspaper:

In a tragic weekend, two people where found slain on the residential streets of Grand Ledge. Apparently, they were attacked by several animals.

In a related story, an old woman was scalped and torn to pieces in a vicious attack in the same neighborhood.

Anybody having any information on these attacks please contact either the Grand Ledge Police or the State Police.

My Most esteamed Prince, I wish for you to contact me throughout the week do to someone(s) being sent from your office? I would also like the Regent to contact me as well do to a violation of my clans domain.

to a certain... Mr. Penguin... I have obtained custody of something that I believe you to be missing. Three hints: it's brown, fuzzy, and is adorned with two band-aids. Contact me so I may drop it off at your residence within the week. yours, thE mAd hAttEr

alright, apparently the fae LARP can only be done next week. Since eric will object if we beat the warhammer spins with tuna to drive them out, we need another place to play. There are several options: Pyle has offered to try to get a ball room at his apartment. Dave Beck has said we could possibly have it at his place, as has apparently John Wilk (John, I heard that second hand, so if its wrong, correct me). I need feedback on you guys if you want to even have it, and if so what locale is preferable. I also need an idea of how many people are coming, as that may limit locale.

sounds kool, adam

the pics are up!

Okie, I'm planning on running an Elder Con-Like vampire game, the last Friday of March, or first Friday of April. VampireLord Ledger(aka Pyle) will be Co-Storytelling. He and I will be constructing the characters from the backgrounds, concepts, and clan we receive. All clans normally represented in either sect will be accepted, none of the wierd ones though(Kiasyd, Samedi, Nagaraja, Old Clan Tzimisce, etc.). Independent clans will be allowed on a first come, only one basis(I.E. Only one independent of each independent clan). Weaseling additional stuff on your character sheet will be allowed, also on a case by case basis, and support for your arguement should be in your background. However, nothing any typical clan member would get(any common discipline, and a couple clan specific, not bloodline, disciplines will feasible additions). Toreador won't be getting Thanatosis, and no one will be getting Temporis. I'll mention the setting after talking with Pyle a little more(probably during announcements of the LARP on the 20th or 27th). Questions can be directed to the E-mail link below or the board of course. One important thing: The game will be meant to one of politicking, deal making, and backstabbing(figuratively). I know coming from me, it wreaks of hypocrisy, but I just played on one of these, didn't get involved in a single challenge against any of the other PC's and had a great time.

Malky Street Train...CHOO!!! CHOO!!!!!

I love rats... they taste just like chicken... *grin*

Im sorry but rats didn't carry the black plague.The fleas on them did.Just standing up for equal rat rights

Werewolf Messag Board and Web Page

Wherewolf message board at, http://userdata.acd.net/emce/garou.html

oh... ok then.

Just to clear things up guys there is a Game THIS WEEKEND!!! WHy may you ask? Because this weekend is the weekend of what? dun dun dun! The 6th! Not the 13th. The warhammer tourny is on what???? Yes thats correct cho cho, now put your helmet back on and continue running into things.

John and Blodgett have you seen Ice Pirates yet?

After having viewed the classic movie Starcrash, we have decided to make some revisions to the direction the changeling game is headed.

1. The baron may halt the flow of time by saying "freehold, halt the passage of time" while looking off into space. Note: this will only last 3 minutes, and will be accompanied by utterly extraneous special effects.

2. One character, chosen randomly, will be able to see the future and be immune to all weapons. He cannot allow others to alter the future, for this would break the law, but is able to alter the future for himself at his leisure.

3. Unseelie characters may construct a doom space fortress, as long as takes the shape of an articulated body part. This ship must also have glass windows, the breaking of which has no effect on the ship or its occupants.

4. All nocker golems created in the game will be immune to all weapons, save clubs wielded by crazy old men. These weapons will destroy the golem instantly. Furthermore, all golems must have an annoying redneck accent.

5. Laser weapons will now be available in game. However, all players will still be required to use melee weapons, as will all NPCs.

6. During the next session, we will be introducing an antagonist NPC who will devise ludicrously overwrought plots to destroy the PCs that can be easy circumvented by using simple concepts, or logical leaps that make no rational sense. The main NPC allied with the characters will be doing this as well.

that's all for now; I'm sure other additions will be thought of in time. Hope to see you all soon!

Nope, I'll be getting them up as soon as I can. I have looked them over, and will be posting most of them, I just have to find the time. :)

why haven't the new pictures I took been posted... was I overly annoying in vain?

however, this weekend there will be a game yes? Good, now go back to your Wyrm Frenzy.

Graaaghaagga!!! Why arn't I told about these things until it's almost too late?!? I'll check on a possible option (No not the children's garden - fun image: Vampires on Ice) Unless I post with something, assume it's a no-go.

Hey everyone!

I just learned that the Fortress is having a Warhammer tournament Saturday the 13th. Since this is going to take up most of the building and all of the night we will not be able to have a game (Vampire, Changeling, Werewolf, Tiddlywinks, whatever) that evening. Anybody with questions may call Eric (Fortress owner) at 333-0435. Have a good day!

Nope.....just wanted to reveal The Toreador of Sabbatality's plans to overtake the Princehood FAILED MISERABLY!!! HA ha hhhaaa.

Good bye mr. wing. Sad to see you go *VOMIT* Maybe you'll find a nice homo community in chicago. *waves* *Hides behind Primogen Thunder's homeless gang and Tyler Durden.* ...For all you Malkies, Just you wait till I get there. Septic tanks of Lansing cringe in fear. Look a Gecko! *SQUISH*

Mr. Jonathan Wing: However much it pains me, your recent actions have left me no choice but to demand that you leave the city immediately; if you refuse to leave, then you shall be removed by force. To all: I am still undecided as to who shall fill the position of sheriff. If you would like to be considered for the position, send your qualifications and reasons to me.

Who is strong enough to be my sidekick... WHO WILL BE TACO BOY? Tune in to the next episode of SKIPPY THE SAFE MODE MONKEY!

Wilson is a bitch.

Happy New Year!!!! Just a couple of quick things and I will let everyone get back to their hangovers.

First of all, Cho Cho I am all for the Werewolf dinner Saturday as long as their is no trout. Trout is the most foul tasting, smelly, slimey and ill-tempered fish in the fish kingdom!

Second: I would like to welcome John Wilk and his Bionic legs back to LARP. Happy Birthday Malcolm!!!

Third: Now that Werewolf is a fully armed and operational genre, I would like to annouce that I am no longer going to play the NPC alpha character. When you see me at LARP, I am no longer Barks-at-Ghosts.

Fourth: I would like to invite all of you to try Werewolf even if you have tried it before and did not like it. This particular game is geared differently then any you have played. We are all part of a Caern of Stealth under orders NOT to interact or interfear with the area around us. OF course since we are CUBS, we occasional mess that up. (Killing 22 people, oops) The point is we are haning fun and would like to have you join us!

Five: I am sure most of you are wondering what or who "Wilson" is. To truely know his power you must watch "Castaway" starring Tom Hanks. Basically he is a vollyball that helped keep Tom alive for four years on the island. He became Tom's only friend. So in many ways it is just like Zack in real life today! ALL HAIL WILSON!

Six: Joy, do you question the power of Chinchilla? Wilson is disspleased...

Seven: Just because you love it soo much, this is for you Skippy:

Happy New Year Skippy the Safe Mode Monkey! And to you as well Taco Boy!! Wilson and I love you!!!!