Which experiment will happen this week, my weak stomached friends? I'm sure you've seen the pattern by now, or, I may be giving you too much credit. I wonder what would happen if the mortal authorities saw one of "you" running the tests? Till the weekend.

due to the server bug, I can't check what I said in previous posts. So as for bashing, just to make it clear: 1bashing = 1 bashing to vamp, 2bash=1bash-vamp, 3bash=2bash-vamp Healing: 1bash=1blood, 2bash=1blood, 3bash=2blood hope this helps

As for status, call it a house rule or don't Adam, the way I said it works is the way it will be. As for Jonathan, I don't think he gets to keep his prince status b/c he lost it before Joshua made the ruling for keeping status. However, you do get to keep the status for any position you held after that. BTW, the keeping of status after you've left the position is a major deviation from the standard cam practice and is the perfect excuse for other cities to not acknowledge the status comming from lansing. Also, if a certian archon hears about it...

Well, I'm back on duty, changlings - let me know how things went. As for bashing damage: Vampires halve the damage taken, rounding down, and the cost to heak is also halved, rounding up. Couple of examples: Billy bob the human and Ray bob the vampire both get pushed off a 4 story building and take 10 bashing from the fall (1+2+3+4) They both go crunch on the pavement with Billy bob filling all 8 health levels with bashing and 2 spilling over to make the 2 "healthy" levels leathal damage. This would result in Billy bob being knocked unconcious for 10 minutes. Meanwhile, Ray bob halves the damage to 5 bashing, leaving him at his third bruised level he then can get up and limp away to spend the next 3 rounds (and 3 blood) healing the damage.

To let everyone know: our old home has had the nessisary repairs made. And is once again useable. And with any luck should be opening to the public in a week.

To let everyone know: The offending graveyard along with the surrounding area is off limits to everyone; I am currently dealing with the situation personally and shall keep everybody updated. Severe punishment shall accompany the breaking of this declaration. Also, the position of Scourge is now open, and I am accepting applications for such. Finally, I wish to know any and all information as to what exactly was/is wrong with O'Hara; O'Hara, if you see this, contact me. Assistance shall be rewarded.

Hey Seth. Do you have an e-mail you want the "moon beasts" to send their downtimes?

There's no such things as faeries. They don't exist.

Aye, what's the Sab-Bat? You people talk about the strangest things. Aye Hack, big party next week. get Ahold of me and I'll give ye Directions.

Dude, what the fuck is an "elysium" or an "Archon"? Anyway, if any of you find any good places to party, especially Shavis, drop me a line. Have a kick ass Halloween, I know I am.....

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Yes, this is a skip week, and we will be holding the fae LARP, open for everyone. For those of you who are planning or considering coming to this, just a few other things. First off, we will be offering additional freebie points for people who wish to come to the LARP in costume to the tune of 3 additional freebies. To get this award, you must come *in costume*, which in this case means your characters chimerical voile (the clothing they wear that they wear in their fae forms). In other words, jeans and a T-shirt isn't going to fly for this award, even if that is what your character is wearing in the mortal world. Second point; some people have been asking to have access to some of the things listed on my previous post about fae (see below if you forgot). If you want us to consider whatever thing you want, submit us a character concept and reason for why you want this particular restricted thing BEFORE the LARP. Coming in the day of the LARP wanting to play a ghille due of house balor with naming just isn't going to happen. Keep in mind as well that submitting it isn't a guarantee that we'll allow it; it depends on the concept and whether it'll fit in the game. If not, maybe when we have a sequel game. Third and final point, mainly for all you newbies to changeling. The game's open for everyone, and will be oriented in part along introducing some of the basic concepts of the game. We'll be giving out basic stuff on fae society and how to play a fae at character gen on Saturday, so in otherwords, if you haven't ever played before, don't feel like you can't come. We're more than willing to help people out. Finally, a fourth note (okay, I lied about 3 being the last); character gen will start at 6, cuz we'd like to get started by between 7 and 8. (yeah, like its going to happen, but still). Anyway, hope to see ya all there.

Still waiting on the status ruling... since i havn't been there maybe i guess i havn't heard. And i shoudl be back with you all for the next vamp game... im sure your all very excited.

This is indeed to be a skip week, except for the Fae who have an On week followed by a whole mess of skip weeks. For clarification (and there has been a lot of confusion on this issue) the bashing damage done by firearms:

Are 2 points of bashing immediately converted to one health level of damage or does one point of healing just cover 2 bashing? In other words if someone gets shot and hit 4 times in a round with a pistol do they get torped before they get the chance to spend 4 blood to heal the 8 levels of bashing or are they just 4 health levels down? If only 4 levels down do they then only spend 2 blood to heal it? What about things that only do 1 bashing?

This week is a skip week, isn't it? And the the whole thing with the Fae larp, correct?

Hey, Zach, did I leave my Book of Nod and Revelations of the Dark Mother in the box?

Sabbat activity up until Saturday was minimal. Saturday night, they began to cause minor problems. There problems will intensify in frequency and level of annoyance, and soon. Someone should offer to assist the Scourge in his duties.

Also I forgot, I would like to ask if you all would email me your experiance so I can also keep track of it for you too so it'll; be on your sheet just in case your forget.

Wow, I just actualy opened the god box and I reliezed how much work I've got to do. I'll be going to Kinko's tonight sometime for bloodtraits and willpower. I was wondering if the werewolves needed any Gnosis or Rage? If anyone can think of anything else I should get lemme know. Thanks.

Eric's right, how is status recognized Camarilla wide by city(or former) positions other than Prince? Is his 10 status good outside of Lansing? Does it make sense for it to?

Im just doing what i know... and last i knew my status was effectivly cam wide... when i stepped down from position i asked what of my status and was told they saw me worthy of keeping it... as was most anyone else who lost position. so whats up? lemme know and i'll run with it.

Alright cho cho, just because I asked if you'd ever thought about what it' be like to shit out a live fish doesn't make me an idiot. Hell it doesn't have to be a big Fish, just like, a small bass.

not gonna argue that your an idiot

And I'm the idiot? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Here's a piece of advice, people. Whenever you get in that oh-so-gothy mood, you hate the world, want to dress all in black (now wait just a damn minute), climb up a clock tower, and just start shooting, there's a better way to deal with these feelings.

Dress all in black, as you are wont to do (I don't know what you're talking about), find some suburban area or small town, and share the following words of wisdom in an exceedingly loud and obnoxious voice:

I'm so darkety Dark dark! Dark, Boo!

Okay, that's the last time I listen to Slapnut... I'm never eating that color mushroom again...

Are the status rules you pointed out house rules, John? If they aren't, they deviate quite a bit from what I've read - both Live Action and Table Top. A template Justicar has 5 status, while a no name Elder would have 3(LotN: Cam Guide). It doesn't make sense for someone other than the Prince to have more status than an Archon.

I was wondering if we were to play at the gardens again? I enjoyed the setting alot. Things all went really good until the Bacon Bit showed up.

Um, John, just a quick question for ya. The keeping of status was actually worked out in-character. Joshua made a declaration that status from old positions would carry over (yes, yet another deviation from standard Cam law, I love Brujah) even after they left the position. The new Prince has not recinded that declaration. I understand rules-wise, it wouldn't normally carry over... ruling please? :)

da-dada-DA. It's abitration man! Adam, you arn't familiar as to how I've got status set up in this larp soo...let me do the quoting. Status is pretty standardized across the cam, therefore there is little distinction between cam status and city status. If a prince and harpy or another city agree, some or all of your status can be recognized in this other city. If no status is recocnized from the other city, this is effectively saying that the prince is an idiot and they don't deserve to be called cam. The usual case is that status from your current position (other than prince) isn't counted (you ain't got the job there). As for princes, archons and justicars - All their status is recognised wherever they go (in the cam). Last bits: Status is a trait like any other, therefore it is capped by generation. This means that most archons have about 13 status and justicars have 15-20, and a thirteenth gen prince can get no more than 10. Also when a character leaves a position in the city, they DO NOT get to keep the status. Remember most status additions come from primogen or princes and must be publicly announced.

Actually as it goes, Adam's character would have the status in this matter. He has Cammilla wide status, alot of times a prince will give someone status and it will just stay in the city even though it's supposed to be Cam wide. his status also presides over erics because he's at a higher position. It'd be like The seretary of defense come's to lansing, in some matters he has more pull than the mayor in some matters where as the mayor has more pull and direction in other matters.

Just a little question... since your character has come to Lansing, and your business with the Harpy is a Lansing matter, wouldn't Lansing status apply more than camarilla-wide? Since you're in Lansing? If Eric's character were to go to another city, he'd be screwed, but since he's here in Lansing, wouldn't he have the advantage?

The allowing of status retention after you step down from a position is unique to that city - it does not transfer to Camarilla status as a whole. Was the status retention status you received from an Archon or Justicar? Like I said, 10 traits is more than the Justicars have. Of course, Camarilla wide recognition of a Sheriff or Scourge(in Lansing?!?!) may be something unique to Fortress, I have been gone for a while.

Mr. Phelps, I didn't mean to upset you as i said i only wish to keep track of those in my family. Your help is well appritiated. Im sure i have some information that could intrest as soon as we can talk. ((OOC-- i was the prince... i was allowed to keep my status...))

Very well. I am here in Lansing as an advisor due to the Sabbat incursion. A majority of the city consists of younger kindred without sufficient experience in fighting the Sabbat. However, as for the matter I have with the Harpy, I would prefer to keep that between myself and the Harpy.(OOC - Status you receive in a city doesn't transfer to status you have in the Camarilla as a whole, unless given by an Archon or Justicar. You could have 20 status in Lansing, but I guaruntee you that the Justicars have no idea who you are, as they have about FIVE to SEVEN Camarilla wide. The status this character has(3) was given by an Archon. Camarilla wide, most kindred have one, maybe two, unless they're Prince of that Domain. Marcus Vitel, for example has more than some of the Justicars, but he's also a better political monster [and about 1500 yrs. older] than any of them.)

Mr. Phelps as I said im just curious, having been here since the very rescent founding of ourselves inthis city. I appologise for my absence perhaps if i would have been around i would have heard. I just like to keep track of my family. ((OOC you sure you got more status then me? i've got 10 im sure your C would be aware...))

I'm curious, Mr. Wing. Are you an officer in this Domain? If you are, your duties are being neglected because if you had attended the last two Elysiums, you would have known I am here to provide counsel on the Sabbat's presence. I have attended the last two gatherings and answered questions on the same issue. As for my desire to contact the Harpy... I have more status than you do, therefore, whatever business I have with him, is mine.

Mr. Phelps, Why do you have bussinuss with the Harpy? Im just curious. And another question? why has Lord Mallory sent you to Lansing? I keep in good contact with him myself, you may know his newest assistant Gwen? She is my child... anyway we should talk upon my return or sooner if you would care to contact me. Im intrested to know what your up too.

I not want your politics, I not want your archon's. They not trust Xaviar, I not trust them. You call me dog, but who stabs who in the back? Who Break up Pack of gypsy? You all lower than dog, you scum. They say I am Scab, You are lower than name I can put on you. Leave I alone in your world of concrete and I will stay in my world of jungle. I wont you no bother I, Me no bother you.

Test... somebody please fix the glitch that requires us to dump our cache in order to see the newer posts. Thanks.

I wish I did not have to do this in public forum, but if my intentions in this city are questioned again without proof, there will be reprecussions. Check with Archon Mallary of my reasoning in being in Lansing. However, if you should bother the Archon with such a trivial matter, the Archon will be most upset. Now, if someone can please aid me in my attempt to contact the Harpy prior to the next Elysium, I will be most appreciative and that individual will be rewarded.

Do to prior engagments I will be unable to attend LARP until the first session of the FAE game. I am going to be going up north the next couple of weekends.

In any Jyhad, the Nosferatu are the first to die...

as far as I know larp is happening this weekend.

as for normal... have we ever had a normal game?

So are we larping this Saturday? Like normal game?

I was told the 28th. If this is the wrong date for the skip week, Wilk, let me know. Thanks.

For bashing vs. lethal damage, check out the Revised edition of Laws of the Night. As for how this particular game is running it, you'd have to ask John.

I have been confused about bashing damage and lethal damage ever since I first heard of it. Is this something that was taken from table top or is there some rules that I am overlooking in one of the MET books? If I am overlooking something would someone please direct me to the info. Thanks.

I thought we were having off week on the 21'st for the con...

We have an Off week the 28th???

BTW, the date we will be running this, as of now, is the 28th of October, I believe. Hope to see you all there.

Oh, another thing that's welcome on the link page is personal web pages of regular players of the game. If you want your page up there, let me know.

Hey everyone there are now links on the links page(imagine that) check out the malky page for vampire humor..and parody songs...ill send more links as i find them....*sings bye bye to my mortal side....

God says: Get over the faerie thing! Guns do lethal! God is a Redcap!!!!!

*gets a sudden craving for cherry pie* *turns on the cd player* *gets a smile on his face 10 miles wide*

stupid amateur nonexistant faeries

Yay ... Fae ... I should try a Haiku ...

*looks at all the dead fairys and startes claping*

with guns doing less damage it could very well make combat scenes last alot longer... i see no problem with the current damage of guns...

Hey. Don't believe in this! *turns the doubter into a cherry pie*

There's no such things as faeries... there's no such things as faeries... there's no such things as faeries

somebody had to do it...

Alright, a lot of people have expressed an interest in the fae LARP we will be running in the next off week for the fortress LARP. As such, I thought I'd post some info so people could have ideas on what will be allowed for play. 1. the PCs will be working to establish a court in Lansing for the parliment of dreams, and at the behest of High Queen Faerylith. As such, think of characters that would be chosen by Faerylith, as well as reasons why the character would be itnerested in going on this quest. 2. Noble houses will be allowed for both commonor kiths and sidhe. However, given who is sponsoring the quest, houses will be for the most part restricted to the seelie noble houses, ie no balor, ailil, or leanhean. Note that being a member of a seelie house does NOT mean the character has to be seelie himself. Members of unseelie houses will be considered if they have a plausible reason for be accepted for the quest. 3. Standard kiths (ie the ones from the main book) only. Numbers of PCs in each kith will be limited, depending on teh total number of players. If you have some kith you really want to play, email blodgett or I ahead of time so we can note that. 4. Titles. No character can start with a title higher than 2, though both sidhe and commoner kiths can buy up to this level. Other backrounds, such as holdings, will likely be inappropriate given the nature of the game and won't be allowed without good reason. 5. Powers. No powers above intermediate. Further, odd or rare powers such as naming, contempt, chronos, delusion, or metamorphosis will be highly restricted. 6. There are no restrictions on playing either seelie or unseelie characters. However, no shadow court PCs will be accepted, nor any thallain. That's about it. If you have questions, comments, etc. Email blodgett or I and we'll try to answer them. Hope to see you all there.

If anyone needs to contact me, feel free to do so. If it pertains to something in which I discussed with the Kindred on Saturday evening anyway.

Blodget, your e-mail tells me the address is invalid. Is it the blodget2@pilot.msu.edu address?

sshhhh....don't tell Erica my email. It's a secret.....doh!

Yes, I know there were a lot of typos in my last message. I'm at school now which makes my brain shut down. Excuse me.

I do not like the new gun rules. Granted, most of my characters are not combat based lately, I have plans to bring in a gunfighter if things become a Cammy-Sabbat war. If this were to happen, Mt character would lose his funesse, and become less useful. And if you people make Daramus seem useless, I will be very pissed. Very pissed indeed...

Rules changes, pah! I haven't had a character that's owned a gun in almost a year. :)

Sorry to interupt, but speaking of Repulicans, I was wondering if anyone knew Kirk Taskila's e-mail adress?? I seem to have lost it...I know Kirk reads this board every so often, so if you are reading it Kirk: Harro!!! Drop me a message sometime!!!

dosn't anyone have any opinions as to the possible rules changes I'm contemplateing? (see below)

mext birthday we get skippy some peanut butter, you know what brand. yummy

Oh, by the way, I STILL have the case of Skippy brand dog food that I would like to get rid of. (I'm absolutely serious.) Doesn't anybody have a dog and want some free dog food?

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Yes? Hey Kirk. :) Oh, and for all those that don't know this nickname, this is Skippy. Yes, Joshua is gone back to London for a good while. Can't wait to bring in my next char. Don't worry, he's perfectly innocent. >:)

One last einsi note reguarding guns. Anyone using both barrels or full auto have 2, yes this is new, loud traits that can be bid against them as per negative traits.

It would appear as though alot has happend... although I wasn't present for the conflict. I was seeing to the safty of our home as is my job. However i was able to see everything that happend by the wonderfull invention called the television. Don't worry i was the only one to witness this and no one else shall. Be happy i was watching all your backs.

To Whom It May Concern:

As a MSU student organization, the Watchers act as a paranormal, investigative, research and social club.

There is no one on our membership list by the name of or alias of "The Watcher". All of our members have also completed the basic ENG or ATL requirements as required by the university. We also try to spell-check our messages before they are released.

schwa!

Well we've got a number of ineresting comments so far. As for the skip week we were talking about 2 weeks from last game. However upon considderation, I think many of us will either have plans or should get some for the weekend of holloween. I don't have a calender with me right now soI'll have to wait a little to figure out a date. Some people have issues with the stregnth of some of the wepons being handed out, actually so do I. I want to put a new house rule up for debate. Make the guns more like table top, have them do bashing damage (to vampires) for their core damage value and lethal for the additional damage from mass trauma and high caliber. By this ruling a .44 magnum would still do 2-3 lethal against a human or lupine, but against a vampire it would do 1 bashing (bashing damage is halved for vampires) and a simple test for an additional lethal. A shotgun at close range would do 1 bashing 1 lethal, a submachine gun would do 1 bashing normally and 2 bashing at full auto (2 or 3 lethal to a lupine or human). lemme know what you think.

I'd like to pose the 20-22 of october as the next skip week... after all, there is a convention that weekend.

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Who is this "watcher" person, and where is his spell checker? I find his anti-Sabbat comments coupled with his assertation that we should act like gods paradoxical. If our esteemed prince Joshua is leaving us in our time of need, does this not reflect on our poor choice to begin with? I hope in the future we will be more careful in choosing our leaders. (out of character comment: If I am wrong about the prince leaving, then disregard all comments concerning him.) I would also like to request a meeting between myself, Mr. Mordain and Mr. Nightstar. (ie: George, call me concerning Downtime)

First of all Zachary isn't there a rule of upholding some sort of rule amoungst our kind on this board? And second I would like to state that I was on my way to help. I am also sick and tired of everyone assuming it was me who did something not wanting to admit that it could be someone within they're own ranks. You people need to relize that we are here to survive and look out for whats best for us. The getting the hevans out of the city was good for everyone but no. Once we think of someone else's well being as well as our own. Screw it, we're sick and tired of saving your ass and almost getting killed in the prosess. Your on your own from now on.

As hard as a try not to carry grudges, Cassius, you always seem to remind me that you are worth it. Unfortunately I must advise all kindred of humane nature to guard themselves. The Settites have proven time and again they are capable of stirring up mischief. Their ability to obfuscate being the primary means as well as their total lack of conscience.

If any Camarilla or allied Kindred know their history I would be happy to share what I have been able to find out through my own investigations. I hope everyone, like myself, has had their fill of Setite "surprises".

1. I'd like to suggest october 20-22 as the next skip week as there's a convention that weekend
2. can someone let me know how to contact the player of the caitiff that was working for the settite. I need to talk to him about downime stuff

Test stage 2 - Roxen 2.0 -> 2.1 complete.

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this hole subbat thin scars the hell out of most of us i dont know about the rest of you but i'm going to face this the best way i know how in a fortafid stronghold and lots of phone calls HA HA HA sereisly I think if there was a way to git the werewolfs and subbat in the same place the problems will take care of themselfs or if the sheirff & scurge do there job this might not have hapend in the first place come now we have known about the werewolfs for mounths now and nothings been done when are we going to stop acting like cowerds and act like the GODS we are !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the subbat invashin is anather example of a dieing city becuse of a lack of leadership

Alas, I have departed the city of Lansing. I will miss some of you, others I will not. Do not fear for me, for I am in a far better place. Good luck in raising the city of Lansing to the pinnacles that you seek.