*puts on a pair of pants* Yeah! This IS nice! Now I can spin, with PANTS!!!

Ed..you could bring back..no..he's dead..what about..no no..he's dead too..hrrm..you..er...could..mm..spin.?.NO..i got it..you could wear pants..that always brings a smile to my face when i'm spining..

Hey! Don't MAKE me bring back . . . ummm . . . uh . . . oh nevermind. I'll go in the corner and 'spin' now. BEH!!!

OK...don't make me bring Ivan back for some feirce inparty fighting...

Go Pyle... the Blood Trait thing's settled as far as I'm concerned... it was confusing for a LONG time. Thanks for getting the details down, I know how you hate those petty rules issues. It's crucial though when it comes down to half a vampire's reason for existance... In Party Fighting!!

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Different topic... woohoo! In the 3rd Edition of Vampire: The Masquerade, it lists discipline substitutions for various clans(Assamite, Setite, Ravnos, and Tzimisce). If we were to play one of those clans would the discipline substitution be allowed? An example is a Setite on the Path of the Warrior, which would sub in Potence for Obfuscate.

Time to settle the arguement.

Spending blood is istantanious; (If not for Healing) Remember the celerity arguement? Blood spending is limited by generation. (see tabletop and laws of elysium) However, It also says in Laws of Elysium that you may spend more blood than allowed by generation if ACTIVATING a discipline. You may not spend blood for 1 round after per blood point spent in eccess. ie: 12th gen gangrel can spend 1 point per round, you have to spend 3 for form of the beast, therefore the 12th gen gangrel would not be able to spend blood for the next 2 turns... (1 trait spent per 12th gen minus 3 spent for form of the beast equals 2 turns of spining) So Adam would be able to instantly turn into a 4th gen tremere. However: It takes 10 blood points to lower from 10th gen to 6th gen and 15 traits to go from 10th gen to 4th gen plus the effects LEAVE AFTER THE NEXT SUNRISE. You do not become 4th gen forever... Be warned that with the new character sheets we will be keeping a much closer eye out on blood traits. If you dont have the blood, you cant do the discipline! I hope that this silly matter is now closed.

Bah! . . . blech! . . . ach! . . . BEH!!! Sorry . . . hairball.

Ah, the beauty of downtime, where the kindred can list where, when, how much they take, and how often they feed... Every game since I bought that discipline, I've come in character with a full blood pool, which for a 4th Gen Vampire is 20 traits. So... NEENER!

Also, I may be mistaken, but I beleive the Thaumaturgy power that incrases your gen and blood pool only increases the _size_ of your blood pool. That means that you have to go out and feed if you want to fill up those blood points, mister.

"Hi, I'm Mr. Tremere. I'm now 4th gen thanks to this neato ritual. I can spend this many blood points... oh, damn, no more blood. Please don't kill me."

I'll have to look it up again, but in the Laws of the Night on spending blood it refers you to the tabletop game. In the tabletop game you can spend one point to raise an attribute each round, though each stays around for the rest of the scene. Anyway, I believe that's the way we're playing it. Maybe Pyle can correct me if I'm mistaken. And you're right Adam, when it comes down to combat to the death, rules lawyering is essential, but when trash-talking on the board it's just braggin'.

I meant that I wasn't talking about Jordan's message. How did someone slip something in while I was writing? I'll have to mention that to the keeper of this page, perhaps with a little coin slipped in as security.

That was a ramblng bunch of nonsense... and I'm not talking about the last post. "Lord, what fools these immortals be." - adapation from one called Puck in a play I read long ago.

I suppose now it's time for my own little trash talking session... nah, I'll skip it under grounds of good taste.

Thaumaturgical Disciplines taking time...? As I recall, spending blood points, for which there is no limit to the number spent per turn in live-action, is instantaneous if not used for healing. Spending willpower is the same. AND Rules Lawyering is needed when two characters are engaged in a combat to the death. Taking full advantage of one's disciplines, rituals, gifts, arcanoi, and/or arts is not rules lawyering. Power gaming, yes. However, didn't the Garou receive the power gaming award...?

Ok Ok...first of all...SHUT THE HELL UP...second of all..PU LLEH EHT TUHS...third of all..i like star wars..it's fun...fourth of all..i don't like canada..though i like all the canada bashing cartoons have been doing..ie simpsons and family guy...fifth of all..not much so i'm skipping to sixth of all..ok i really ran out of things to say..so stop power gaming on a computer and save your energy for power gaming with a nice copy of dark ages...candle light...soft music..and..erm..ok..i'm..er..CANADA SUCKS!.

Thank yuo everyone for what I thought was a great start to the summer. I plan on keeping the downtime system the same. However, do to the fact we can't have a storyteller meeting until 5:oopm Saturday, downtime will not be do until Friday evening! No new news on the merger. Once "negotations" start I will let you know. I understand everyone's concerns and I share them. Please remember that with change comes risk and hopefully progress and success. I would like sometime to have an open forum with players and stortellers from both larps to discuss questions and concerns before anything is finalized. Remember this, it will always be Fortress Of The Mind's Eye! Thank you once again,

Just an aside comment to all the Thaumaturgy modifications that Cyrus would be making on himself... those things take time. Each of those take at least a turn, so the werewolf would have decimated you before you could get to 29 traits. Just a thought.

OOOOkay.....If you applied a little of that math knowledge and rules lawyering to common sense, you'd stumble upon the equation of: (Cyrus) + (A Garou) - (your head)= you making yet another character that is a bunch of stats on a piece of paper. If you check my calculations, I'm sure you'll see some logic. No offense, but it's summer, you're home, relax...don't power-game, drink some refreshing lemonade. Love, Da' Flava'

Alright, penis comparison! Lets see. If I remember correctly, the gypsy dog was rank 3, right? That wouild give you a TOTAL of 22 Traits in Crinos. If you have cat's feet, thats another 3 and perhaps a weapons. At the most you'd have 28. HA! I can have more! I love Thaumaturgy. I'd become 4th Gen via Potency of the Blood, burn several blood traits for TWENTY-FIVE traits, burn willpower for Lion Heart for an additional 4. Hmm... I'm at 29 now. 29 - 28 = 1 Cyrus has more! NEENER!!! I could use a weapons too, but that would make it too easy. Then there's all that other cheaty Thaumaturgy I have....

Hi, it's me. Bet you all thought (or hoped) you'd never hear from me again.
Anyways, this whole expanded LARP thing sounds interesting. I mean, I'm no longer really involved, but I kind of agree with Erica. I really don't know who the other Storytellers are, but I thinked things worked best when we were all friends and we got along. I still think that Pyle and Mike and Nate and Dave and Grand Moff Pooka should still have supreme executive power because I know they're great people and I trust their judgment. Once again, I guess it's not really any of my concern anymore. I would like to see more larpers working and playing together, but I don't want to se conflicting interests causing a prickly discomfort across everyone's collective necks. Oh yeah, if anyone wants to say hi to me, just send me an e-mail, I still check it. Well, I'll talk to you later. Love, Da' Flava.
P.S. How was the first Dark Ages larp?

Cyrus!?! Mad Garou hunting spree!?! WAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

/me shifts into Crinos and chomps Cyrus' head off

(slightly muffled from incredibly oversized head in mouth) Dude, *blank stare*, now *that's* a mad Garou hunting spree!

My turn! Anyway, I think if the other LARP's players are using the facilities of our game, they should be able to handle whatever rule changes there would be from what they're accustomed to. I think whatever new ST/Narrators's there would be, should abide by whatever rules Pyle, Nate, and Blodgett(Squirrels rule, by the way) have set for the chronicle. I do have one question though: If a majority of the new players decide on Garou, can Cyrus go on a mad Garou killing spree(I bet most of you think I'm joking too... mwa ha ha!!!)? I hope everyone is enjoying the Dark Ages Chronicle, and have a nice Summer.

I think it's a bad idea to call this thing a merger. Fortress of the Mind's Eye is pretty well set in it's rules and dealings with the players. I don't know if current Fortress folks would be happy with alot of changes. I think the best thing for Fortress to do is to invite the other LARP to play with us at Fortress and leave it at that. I'm sure they have resources and things we could use, but don't change the storyteller core or the fundamental way Fortress is run... please... it's my only plea to the higher ups who actually have a say. Be really, really careful...

There are pretty much two possibilities. The least likely is that it would still be the Fortress, and the players would just join our LARP. The other possibility is that it would be a merging of both games, with storytellers from both games, and players from both games. Whatever happens in the end, it will still be Fortress of the Mind's Eye.

If I can ask, which game would this be? Mish, and Dave's or Gabbies. Im just curious. Avoid Gabbies game if you can in my opinion at least. Mis and Dave would be alright, but thats something else I would like to discuss. Hope to see you all on saturday, and I hope you dont mind my posting here.

The L.A.R.P won't leave the fortress, trust me! One of the reasons the other L.A.R.P wants to merge is that they play at a house that is not always available. No, I WON'T leave the fortress! Please e-mail with concerns or questons... :) (Except for an occasional Children's Gardens game!)

Please keep the Larp at the Fortress!

Just thought I would let everyone know that today I have had some preliminary discussions with another East Lansing L.A.R.P. in regards to a possible merger. I believe there is interest in said merger from both parties to increase the size and quality of our perspective L.A.R.P's. Several things such as Plot mergers and Storyteller corpse changes would have to be discussed and a mutual dission made before this could be official. I do feal that these talks were a geniune step towards a merger and will continue to update all of you on any new devolpements. Please feal free to e-mail me with any questions and concerns you would like addressed in these talks. Thank you for your continued support. See all of you on Saturday!

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