Well ... first of all, I got permission to post this out of character to the board ... so dont scream. I realize that some of you dont know me, so just skip this if you dont. No, Skippy, that doesnt mean you. :) I just wanted to tell you guys that I have had a blast living here in Michigan. Playing at the Fortress was a lot of fun, and an experience that I wont soon forget. After all, who could forget being voted into the role of Prince of the City with as little experience as I had? Thanks to people like John Wilks and Seth and Dave, I managed to make it through. Whew! No, Skippy, I never learned to say OHL right, rather, you didnt (LOL), but I did learn about things like Uppers, eh, and the lovely part of my vocabulary that gets me laughed at (Geez oh Petes!). As you guessed, I am going someplace. I am moving to Ohio. Mike Ruyle, stop cheering!! :) Its about 2 hours, and you are all invited to come and see me iffn you want to. Keep up the awesome gaming, and I will see you all around. My email address is below if you want to write. Love Ya All Lisa (AKA Sarah Buchannan)

The the smell of mutes screaming of flossing ducks make my shoes itch with sandpaper.

Greetings people,

I am planing on having a game tonight at fortress. I hope you come and have fun.

Apparently, the URL section of the comments isn't exactly the most adept. Here's the link in a manner in which it will not get you an error message. www.livejournal.com/users/jachilli

This is Vampire Developer, Justin Achilli, hard at work.

Adam: sorry, just my plans coming togeather nicely. on a GRAND scale. :)

Anyone know about a local game with a Risen problem? On the MET Forum on the White Wolf website, there's a post about a local game with Risen taking over the body of Brujah.

Thanks Skippy. I like you man but that's a visual I did not need.

I just love the phrase "whacked out on goof balls". Makes me all warm and squishy inside.

You should share with others. It will make your heart grow 3 times as large and you live longer. Ebinizer Scrooge

PS2 still owns

Nintendo Gamecube, GOOD!

X-Box, fire, Napster, you're mom, BAD!

Hope the game last week went well, and the games up through Jan. 7th go well.

monkey humping slog myer...go bite a rabid donkey in heat that is being whiped by a midget in a clown outfit who is wacked out on goof-balls.

this post is strictly for those who were hoping for a full DI/fortress merger. If you don't care, please skip ahead. I'd like to extend my apology to any players at fortress who were looking forward to my returning to fortress. I was looking forward to RP'ing with you all again. However I have to stick with the players whose characters I'm currently involved in. Hopefully we will have the chance to play together again, and I'd like to see some of you come visit our game on a skip week (note if you want to do this we don't meet again untill jan 7) see everybody around. oh, contact me by email with responses, as I don't check in here.

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Who said I was talking about fuzzies...?

The plot thickens... excellent*Mr. Burns posture*

I figured you weren't pissed at me. I just wanted to point out, OOC, that you guys were talking (paraphrase or loosely)about how anicent werewolves are. I think Alan has spun the fuzzies enough but it wasn't all his doing. :) - Don

There seems to be an extrme amount of people who feel that their own importance takes precidence over tradition, thier own lives, and the lives they encounter. All you need is an invatation to those men looking to fear you to make your lives of "importance" too troublesome for even your so called friends to stand up for you. Sacrifice the few to save the many. Here you will learn to respect those who would fear you, or you will serve as an example to those who disregard such. This is your challenge for survival. If you fear me your priorities are already working against you. Good luck.

Don, I am not mad at you or Alan. My character is. :) There is a distinction. :)

Silly leech. Even us primative shifter types know that secrecy is important. Looks like these sun-allergic types can keep their own in check. At least they do something right....

EvilMirth@hotmail.com - The Lansing Police Department told me to tell you they say hi. Should I relay your message to the FBI and CIA also?

OCC: I read through some of the posts before I started posting here and there is enough information or attitude (talking about devolving from apes) here to irritate any human or kindred. So if all of you who are currently pissed at Alan would PLEASE re-read everything that was posted prior to his posting and think about it, I would be grateful.
Thanks Don

WOW, all these people are deranged. This site is SOOOO kool. I wonder if the Lansing police know about this group of loons running around their city. I think I will call them and tell them about this site. Hopefully that will keep all those GIANT WOLVES away from my apartment.

That's it. If I find you, your head is coming off your shoulders.

I never stated that I was four hundred year old(You assumed it). As part of the greater Algonquian nation, I subscribe to the notion of reincarnation. As for being immortal, that would be sort of immortality, would it not? I just happen to remember some of my lives. Any ordinary person can do that if they open their mind enough. Like I said before, you assume too much. - Moon Shadow

Markson. For someone who claims that we should not assume to know you and your kind, you are quite persistant to make your own assumptions about my brothers. What is it in you that compels you to find such defiance in us. Do you truly lack such definition?

So, gentlemen, are we all going to whip them out on the table?

Blake, you're an idiot. If I find out who and what you are, I'm going to do natural selection a favor and end you.

*Sends up a silent prayer*

IC:

Out of Role:
I would like to take this time for congratulating everyone on the fantabulous way they are acting out there roles it is a credit to you all, Alan and Oak especially are doing wonderful, please keep up the great work and it will make this game of Forever Night an extreme success, getting in to your role so well adds so much flavor to the game. Again keep up the great work, but do remember that part of keeping this all in your role it to be subtle in your wordings. Hints leave more to the imagination than being blatant. Go GAME ON!!!

Story Master, Jon Blake

Markson, I will research your story of your age and your origins in the Virginia tribes. If they are true, you do your people a dishonor, as well as the Great Spirits.

You still draw undue attention to yourself and your people here. For someone that is simply a 24 year old Native American, it is amazing that I seem to show more wisdom than a 400+ year old...obviously of supernatural origins to be so old. Perhaps I will consult the Medicine Man in my village back home about you. I am sure that he will be interested in finding a such an old member of one of the Nations. Perhaps the oldest on record.

Yes, Markson, keep talking, I'm sure that someone will come and and say, "Hello, how are you this evening?" at your front door at some point. After all, I believe that you have already said enough to arouse suspiscion of "the Holy Church" if any members of it read this board. I know that if I was a blind servant of God, I would see your statements as those of one that has been possessed by, oh, what is his name again? The Devil? That is the correct term yes? I do not know, I do not follow that religion, I follow the religion of my people, as they have followed it for many thousands of years.

Or, you could do the smartest thing and shut your lips from flapping in the wind as they are and listen to Louis. He is your leader? Yes?

Alan. Check your E-Mail NOW before you even THINK of posting here again!

Heart of Oak: Names are meaningless to me. My name meant that I was to guard the village. I was guarding the village one night and was attacked by a giant wolf. I died that night. I found out later that he was a white man. So back off!

- Moon Shadow

Better known as

Alright Mr.Alan, I have taken your smart ass remarks for the final time. Your days are numbered, and the clock is ticking...

Heart of Oak: You say you are Cherokee. I say I was at one time Powhatan. I was born in the year 1574 in what is now Roanoke, Virginia. I passed in the year 1608, shortly after the white man came. So DO NOT preach to me of the white man!

Alan Markson, Seneschal.

Mr. Ice: Did the Prince say you fell under his jurisdiction?

No, I don't think he did.

Silly puppy, You couldn't control your temper if you wanted to!

Alan Markson, Seneschal.

Just as an aside it is GREAT to see this board active again :))))))

Sister: I shall fill you in on my visit, as well as listen to your brilliantly-crafted plan (they always are, aren't they) before I attend the assemblage of the Council here in this rank, rank city.

Mr. Cypher: Yes, I remember Billy Bob. I do also remember that you were a member of this organization. I'm sure you're extremely anxious to grant me audience, but I shall have to delay that until my more urgent matters are taken care of. Consider this my introduction to you. If my schedule permits, I will see you again in person.

Markson: Your pathetic "lifetimes" of experience can't hold a candle to the amount of knowledge some of our kind have access to. Some of us have distinct, vivid, and quite complete memories of when the dinosaur kings ruled the land and when the human filth infested it. Now, you hairless monkeys have devoted yourselves to powers best left untouched. I suggest you keep your fingers away from any keyboards for a while. It'd be a pity if we could track you down becuase we tracked you due to your carelessness.

Whiteman Markson, I told you that if you didn't shut your lips that you were going to attract undue attention to yourself. Louis, perhaps as the leader of your people, you should shut his whiteman mouth before he gets your people in trouble. As Louis has already stated, this place is not a safe haven and anyone can read and post here.

Do not assume that you know anything about me whiteman Markson. I am Cherokee and I speak for my people here...the Native Americans and the Cherokee Nation of the Six Sun. They are my people and they are my family. I do know the white man, and I do know what he has done to my people.

IC: Brother dearest. Of course I miss you. But where in the bloody hell are you? And what are you ding back? And you understand that you have a beating coming correct? If you mess up my plan I will have to have strong words with you. Word is you got an interesting promotion.

I'm sorry but I do not fall under any leech law. If I wish my temper to be flaired it will be.

OOC: Sorry skippy I was unaware it caused a problem, it Auto closes on mine after it lists the Email addy. :(

IC: Joshua: Sorry you are mistaken I was the leader of no movement independant or otherwise. you must have me confused with BillyBob. And I will gladly grant you and audiance as I will any of our kind that wish one in this city, as long as no harm is intended and all the Laws are obeyed and respected.

OK on to the beliefs topic, Personaly I do not care what any of you belife, your all free to belive what you choose, no bliefes change the facts that we are all hereand have to deal with it, how we each choose to deal with anything agian is our own decision. as for those under my rule, you all know the rules and laws you are expected to abide, outside of that it is your choice. If any of us are going to change that view it is up to each of us to do that of our own accord, arguing and bickering will not change a thing, only flair tempers.


Louis Cypher

*rasies an eyebrow*

From the prattle on this infernal message system, it looks like Lansing is still the bloody shithole it was when I left. Well, I'm coming back. You wankers can forestall your bloody ceremonies and pomp, despite the amount of sect-wide status I've amassed, I am here on business, not to bathe in your adoration ( and I know you love me too, sister ).

I have a message for the Council of Lansing. Please call a meeting this Saturday, I shall arrive where you are gathering. This message comes from those much higher than myself, a humble past Prince of this very city.

Oh, and Mr. Cypher? Weren't you the leader of the Independent movement when I left? Now Prince? My, my...

What will happen when a blazing inferno hits the earth, non of you will be left....

Whoever is playing Louis Cypher, if you're going to use COLOR, please learn how to CLOSE YOUR FONT TAG so that the rest of the board doesn't show up the same color as your post.

Heart of Oak: You assume much! You have no way knowing if I am white, red or black! Alan Markson is simply a name I have chosen to use at this time. As with ALL immortal creatures, I have had the result of many lifetimes to learn, to seek, to know. Do not assume to know me or my kind. You do NOT! I am here to watch those who need watching and remove those who need to be removed. - Alan Markson

You, white man, amuse me a great deal. I have watched you spout forth your white man propaganda for long enough. You have no clue who created you. You say God because you know of no other term for forces that are beyond your shallow scope of comprehension. My people have known for millinea upon themselves who created them. Let me share with you, one of the many creation stories of my people. This comes from Tohono O'odham.

Long ago, they say, when the earth was not yet finished, darkness lay upon the water and they rubbed each other. The sound they made was like the sound at the edge of a pond.

There, on the water, in the darkness, in the noise, and in a very strong wind, a child was born. One day he got up and found something stuck to him. It was algae. So he took some of the algae and from it made the termites. The termites gathered a lot of algae and First Born tried to decide how to make a seat so the wind could not blow it anywhere. This is the song he sang:

Earth Medicine Man finished the earth.

Come near and see it and do something to it.

He made it round.

Come near and see it and do something to it.

In this way, First Born finished the earth. Then he made all animal life and plant life.

There was neither sun nor moon then, and it was always dark. The living things didn't like the darkness, so they got together and told First Born to make something so that the earth would have light. Then the people would be able to see each other and live contentedly with each other.

So First Born said, "All right. You name what will come up in the sky to give you light."

They discussed it thoroughly and finally agreed that it would be named "sun".

Next First Born made the moon and stars, and the paths that they always follow. He said, "There will be plenty of prickly pears and the people will always be happy."

That's the way First Born prepared the earth for us. Then he went away.

Then the sky came down and met the earth, and the first one to come forth was I'itoi, our Elder Brother.

The sky met the earth again, and Coyote came forth.

The sky met the earth again, and Buzzard came forth.

Elder Brother, Earth Magician, and Coyote began their work of creation, each creating things different from the other. Elder Brother created people out of clay and gave then the "crimson evening," which is regarded by the Tohono O'odham as one of the most beautiful sights in the region. The sunset light is reflected on the mountains with a peculiar radiance.

Elder Brother told the Tohono O'odham to remain where they were in that land which is the center of all things.

And there the desert people have always lived. They are living there this very day. And from his home among the towering cliffs and crags of Baboquivari, the lonely, cloud-veiled peak, their Elder Brother, I'itoi, spirit of goodness, who must dwell in the center of all things, watches over them.

So, white man, spare me your stories of who created us. I KNOW who created me. It was not your "God". It was the Great Spirits. Do not try to define them. You can not.

It was men like you that came to these lands and claimed them as your own in the "holy name of God" and killed those that lived in the land...and with the land, in peace. It was men like you that slaughtered entire Nations of people that lived here, as they had done for thousands of years upon thousands of years. Spare me white man, for I care not of your opinions. You are correct on one thing. This is not up for debate. The Great Spirits created me, and my people, the few that are left of them after your people have mercilessly slaughtered them over the past 500 years. Perhaps you should watch your tongue before you attract undo attention to yourself whiteman.

Breath and Mr. Ice: It is not open for debate. That is not why I am here. It is not why I came to Lansing. I came as a favor to someone dear to me. But your haughty attitude that kindred and humans and beneath you, really irritates me. Do you really believe that all creatures of all species are either one way or the other and not merely shades of gray? Do you think that ALL puppies are GOOD are all about protecting Gaia? Of course you don’t. Because not all werecreatures, humans, kindred or other sentient beings are either all good or all bad, there are many decent kindred and many evil kindred. Judge not lest ye be judged thyself. I am sure you have never sinned or did anything wrong yourself. Have you? You self-righteous son-of-a-bitch. In other words you need to judge creatures on their individual actions and not on the actions of a few bad (a lot of) seeds. I have nothing against either of you, I am just trying to point that not every creature of a certain race is all bad or all good. We are here so deal with it. Ice: You said our(mine and yours) gods? You are confused! There is only ONE GOD and IT created both of US. There are many humans that, if they knew we existed would kill us both if they had the chance. But that is because they do not understand Gaia and her plans to test us all. Some of us fail miserably and others exceed her wishes. We need to strive for peace. - Alan Markson, Seneschal

Nevermind, im tired, ignore last post

OOC: how is this a un secure message board, just wondering, because if the players dont come over there are more WW then vamp anyways.

I would like to take this time to welcome all the new arrivals to the great city of Lansing.
As you have probably noticed by reading this UN-Secure message board that the dogcatcher has been sleeping. That is not an immediate concern.
But what is of concern is making sure that the problems of Jackson do not come knocking at our door. I feel that if we are all willing to work together for at least that goal we will then be safe to peruse any of out other personal goals.
I am open to all input that any of you care to give on this and any other matter of concern.
If possible I would appreciate an E-Mail from all of you that have net access to I can put you on my mailing list.

Thank you.


Louis Cypher

Markson. If you have come here for a debate you've come to the wrong place.

Alan, Once again, why do you speak so rude to my comrad, I understand you are walking dead and you have no place on this earth. For you to exsist is a waste of space on our great lands created by our gods. So do yourself a favor and silence yourself. Because I need not want to do it for you.

Breath:You may assume that I am a corpse. It is just like a puppy to think they are always right and to have the shortsighted view that puppies are superior or that they were here before humans or kindred. You are foolish! Life begins with and ends with GOD! You think that one day Gaia woke up and said I think I will make puppies today to protect against my brother, Entropy (ie the worm). Get a Clue! Or no you are one of those creatures that believe in the big bang bulls**t spread by scientists. All Creatures are created of GOD. Your narrow minded view of the world disgusts me! - Alan Markson, Seneschal

Hey all. An important message. For those of you that know Brad Feighner, the guy that plays the Shadow Lord in the game, please send your best wishes to him. I just found out today that he had a heart attack yesterday. If you want to go see him, he is in Sparrow Hospital until Thursday, Rm:430. Or call him at 517.483.3366. I'm sure that he'd be glad to hear from everyone.

Mike Very true.. but it can ONLY be taken E-mail IF the E-mail addy is given LMAO

How aboot this: Lets use this board for what it has ALWAYS been used. IC posts to enhance the game and the plots. OOC posts to enhance friendships and communications. Problems and arguments that are OOC can be taken to email. :) Thankye.

For someone who claims to hold dominion over others, you certainly are oblivious to many things, Cypher. I mentioned we should talk already(scroll a bit down the page genius). Name a place and time.

IC posts should be done only by Active players.

I believe that a Seneschal is term for 2nd in command in the chain of command they work in.

You do not have to be a active member to post here, we just ask the person crap be kept in emails. Thats been the policy for a long time. This is a board of friends as well

Leave the corpses alone. They will defend their beliefs as they defend the excess that brings about their state of being. Their beliefs are unimportant. Arguing with them will not change them. It will only fuel them to strengthen their beliefs or oppose you. Look closely at the face of corruption that these corpses give you but do not feed it for your actions will speak for your beliefs. I would also ask that you choose your "words" carefuly for the greatest effect. With this in mind does anyone know what a Seneschal is?

BC I have no clue who you are but if you would like to meet face to face and discuss a few thigns, please be my guest.

Your skewed view has no weight. Gaia is not god, she simply is.

Apparently, the coward blood-devil Cypher turned tail and is hiding now. Pity...

Alan, why must you insult my friend and speak in your rude manner. He has said nothing to you, furthermore he has not directed a question to you.

now that my character sheet says active, go to hell

Breathe: You know nothing! Gaia is GOD! GOD is Gaia. For you to say you kind was here before GOD is to say you were here before Gaia. Alan Markson, Seneschal

All right boys and girls OOC: Most of you were informed by Seth that a ridiculous number of DI players will be coming over to fortress. This i snot just rumor. But, for the sake of sanity (namely mine) we'll be running a test game either this weekend or next. Iw oudl really appreciate if either tonight you could fill me in some history seeing as I've been out of town for a bit, and I really don't want this to be something that has the potential to make anyone miserable. Also, current storylines. I will be STing now for Vampire, but I'm not interested in screwing you guys out of your own plot twisties. Lord knows I love a good plot twisty. So email me with questions, comments ,concerns, ideas, etc.

Breath: You need to use more examples and demos to keep things interesting. Some charts and diagrams would be nice. Also, you shouldn't just blather on about "This is the Way Things Are." You need to explain _why_ things are this way and be able to show it and prove it. For example, instead of going on and on about spirits, you should actually have a spirit show up, or something, and do spirit stuff.